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Video: Firefighter vs. videographer heated exchange

Confrontation caught on video raises questions of how to best handle bystanders with cameras

By EMS1 Staff

MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, Fla. — Video has emerged of a heated exchange between Miami-Dade County firefighters and a civilian videographer at an incident scene.

The video was posted to YouTube Thursday (though gives no indication of when it was actually filmed) by the videographer involved,"MiamiImpulse."

As reported by Statter911, a firefighter asks the videographer to not tape the scene, saying it's "personal information."

A fire captain on the scene then tells the man to turn around and walk away, and requests police attend the scene for a "combative bystander."

The fire captain insists the man recording the scene needs to be more than 300 feet away from the medical helicopter, which is preparing to take off.

Curt Verone, in his law blog, wrote that the videographer's First Amendment rights may have been violated. He cautioned that everyone, not just members of a media organization, have a right to cover the news.

Verone wrote that emergency responders do have the right to set clear safety work zones, but that those must apply to everyone and not just photographers.

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Andrew Tucker Andrew Tucker Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:08:12 PM The firefighters are definitely wrong here. There was no "personal information" revealed at any time by the video. Hell I don't even know where that scene is except that it's presumably in Miami-Dade's response area, and they may have been mutual aided out. This is HIPAAphobia at it's best.
Timothy A Ray Timothy A Ray Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:11:57 PM The captain needs to lay off the steroids and needs to be demoted to a private or even to a recruit because he was not acting like a professional and when he lied to dispatch about him being combative. I hope that the on looker pressed charges against him for battery.
Jamey Gualdoni Jamey Gualdoni Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:14:35 PM He should be fired and have assault charges filed on him, disgraceful to other professionals providers.
Dave Linnet Dave Linnet Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:17:17 PM well he didn't tackle him Flint Nichols.
Cheryl Rindt Cheryl Rindt Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:18:29 PM It seems that Mr. Smart was not so smart after all.
Christine Scarlotta Jones Christine Scarlotta Jones Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:19:03 PM Capt. Smart needs to lay off the steroids and quit being a bully...the best thing he could have done is just ignore the media...if he wanted to protect the pt he could have blocked the view with his body...
Genghis P Curameng Genghis P Curameng Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:20:29 PM And the videographer also needs to find something else more productive
Connie Wheeler-Buckallew Connie Wheeler-Buckallew Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:25:39 PM well you know in ems we attract medic clearly you could not see the patient and they should have been paying way more attention to there jobs instead of a reporter that could not see a patient
Frank Shay Frank Shay Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:29:15 PM The guy that filmed this is WRONG. EMS/Police/Fire are in charge at a scene and he should comply..............
Eric E. Kincaid Eric E. Kincaid Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:31:15 PM The guy is a hothead and needs to be disciplined before he puts his hands on someone else. I would fire him. He is also wrong. This is not a private event when a freaking helicopter lands in public and he is 50-75 yards away. If he walks up to the ambulance and points his camera into the back he is then getting private as well as too close to the LZ. The bystander also was not "combative." Embarrassing.
Brevyn R. S. Fisher Brevyn R. S. Fisher Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:31:31 PM I'm in Cpt. Smart's side here. That guy was being a douche, big time. Just walk away, son. I'm sure you can get another angle somewhere else.
Lowary Patton Lowary Patton Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:32:19 PM if this captain worked at my company he would have been fired.
Ken Reed Ken Reed Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:33:58 PM There is enough blame to go around. 1) I agree with all that the Capt. should have been more professional and continued to look after the pt. you cant tell who they are loading onto the chopper when it arrives. So long as the videographer didn't compromise his or anybody's else's safety or broken any laws then he should have left the videographer alone. There was no "personal information" that was being compromised so HIPPA wouldn't be an issue. The Capt. just wanted the videographer to leave. 2) When the videographer saw that the confrontation was getting worse by him arguing with the Capt., then he should have left. It isn't worth getting into a big blow up over something so minor. I realize that he makes his living doing this but still. There will be other scenes for him to tape in the future.
Ryan Klackle Ryan Klackle Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM The first guy was polite and asked nicely. The captain went well overboard. All he needed to do was put up Fire Line tape, then he would have a reason to have police respond. In my opinion, he went on a power trip. It's an interesting discussion.
Thomas Foley Thomas Foley Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:35:07 PM I would be willing to bet that the photographer would be pissed if it was him or a family member being recorded!
Laura Douglass Laura Douglass Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:43:32 PM And on the other hand, just because someone is the victim of an illness or accident does this also mean that Joe Public has the right to also invade their privacy. He may not have been able to see the patient but the Firefighter's had no way to know that are are trying to protect their patient's rights. Mr. Smart may have gone a bit to far however, unless you are in a rescuer's position you have absolutely no idea how intense these situations can get when someone's life and safety hangs in the balance. I'm been there so I guess I would have to take the side of the firefighter's. Why would any fool want to stop and video this anyway?
Andrew Tucker Andrew Tucker Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:44:24 PM I disagree with #2. If he had left it would have just served to inflate the Captain's ego more. The videographer did not escalate the situation, he just held his ground and it wasn't wrong. The blow up was from the captain.
Stefanie Miller Stefanie Miller Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:56:01 PM The point is, working as an emergency responder it is our job to do the best we can for the patients. IF YOU WERE THAT PATIENT AND YOUR FAMILY DID NOT KNOW YET THAT SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAD JUST HAPPENED TO YOU, POSSIBLY YOUR LIFE AT RISK, WOULD YOU LIKE EVERYONE TO SEE BEFORE YOUR FAMILY COULD BE NOTIFIED? Whether the TACT of the fire Captan was amicable, the bystander needs to know that by continuing to engage in this banter is at the end of the day accomplishing nothing but adding further stress to an ALREADY critical scene. Common sense would suggest walking away. Did anyone stop to consider WHY a medical evacuation unit was on scene? Does anyone consider the fact that there are strict guidelines and protocols for using air transport via ground. I'm sure after this was all over the photographer returned to his nice comfortable home to upload this right away for the world to see. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF YOU WERE CONSTANTLY VIDEOTAPED AT WORK, SO THAT ANY MISTKE MADE COULD BE BROADCAST AND MOCKED? Get a grip people, get a life. This man is out there TRYING to make a situation better for someone by putting himself on the line as an emergency response worker. The author of this is merely here to cause grief and angst. Do unto others as you would have done to you.... and CHECK YOURSELF. If you enjoy videography perhaps you should invest in some courses. EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE POINTING FINGERS!
Garry Watkins Garry Watkins Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:57:23 PM Medic was wrong and out of line. If the photographer were a total nut and had a gun, every person in the area would have been in jeopardy. Smart took it to and unacceptable level. His job was to give his undivided attention to his patient. Was the pt officially passed off by Smart, or was his need for machismo more important?
Shane Murray Shane Murray Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:58:57 PM The guy was standing up for himself... there was no reason to bully him.. the videographer did nothing to impede the progress of care, was not any closer than the other cars driving by, and did not reveal any personal information...
James Nute James Nute Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:59:49 PM There are several problems with this scene. 1- The scene is not secure, 2- You don't have a helicopter fly over power lines when you have 3 other areas they should of approached from. 3- The crew should of focused on patient care, not someone video taping. 4-The person was not combative as the idiot captain reported. 5-The concern should of been the SEVERAL cars driving by not the bystander that was not a safety issue. 6- The minute the "capt" touched the person video taping he assaulted him. 7- The "capt needs to learn his job and get off the steroids.
Shelly Wilson Shelly Wilson Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:00:14 PM If you are told to step back, then you step back. You address your First Amendment Rights at a later time. Anyone who refuses to follow orders given by a fire department member in charge of a scene, no matter HOW they refuse, is considered combative. His mere refusal to move is combative.
Frank Shay Frank Shay Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:02:08 PM no it didn't take away from the patient, there were other medics, as well as the flight crew. He was in charge of the scene and the photographer was wrong.
Shane Murray Shane Murray Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:02:13 PM They may in charge, and if they felt his safety was an issue, then the road should have been closed to all of the traffic going by as well... Straight up abuse of power... Kudos to the videographer for standing his ground WITHOUT combativeness
Frank Shay Frank Shay Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:02:30 PM key word, driving by...
David McLeod David McLeod Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:03:11 PM WOW! Miami Dade has always had a reputation of being hot heads! From a dept standpoint, I would be looking at why my guys feel the need to engage with someone not even in the safe zone vs. engaging in patient care and scene safety especially with a "hot" helicopter scene? R my guys over worked? R they tired of not getting support when they need it, and take matters into their own hands? I will give it to Capt Smart-not sure if anyone noticed, but when he was barking out orders and telling the camera man to move back, he was keying up his radio mike so he documenting what he was telling this cameraman to do, and broadcasting this exchange of the air. That would be a concern of mine because obviously Capt Smart has had some type of training to know to key the mike, OR Company Officers in Miami Dade take matters into their own hands and key the mike to "justify" their actions. Either way, I feel that patient care, and scene safety were compromised because the FF and Capt made it a point to confront the camera man. I think really their is previous issues where the Fire Dept feels the need to act like Police Officers. That's why they have Police Officers so they can deal with this camera man (not sure why he was approached in the 1st place) and crown control and maintain scene safety so the Fire Dept can treat the patient. All easy to say after the fact, but if it were me, I would be looking at a lot of different factors vs just pinning it on a cameraman that did or did not comply. Also wanted to add that as previous mentioned, the camera man's rights were violated. As a previous Company Officer, I do not know the law, and therefore Miami Dade as a department may want to conduct training on the legality of the media along with HIPAA knowledge. We all have bad days, but those bad days need to be kept in check, especially a Company Officer with a very well known and respected fire department. One bad apple made the ENTIRE department look bad. I pose the question: after seeing this exchange, what does one take home when you hear anything about the Miami Dade Fire Department?
Shane Murray Shane Murray Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08:32 PM I completely agree with Andrew, the only issue was the Captain bullying an innocent bystander... I don't think the videographer was a professional, I just think that he happened to be there at the time this occured and wanted to record the moment for a personal memento... Public place, no intereference with personnel, no laws broken... noreason to give in to the Bully
Stefanie Miller Stefanie Miller Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:10:11 PM Shane Murray it is the difference between derbris hitting a car vs someone unprotected. Have you ever stood at close range to a helicopter landing or taking off? Sorry, which navigation company or emergency service did you receive your training?
Shelly Wilson Shelly Wilson Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:10:24 PM If you watch from 2:56, you'll notice the helo medic points out to the fire dept. medic that the cameraman is there. Notice how the helo medic is waving his arms.....looks like he is telling them to move this guy out of the area. I think that is the only reason they approached this guy.
Aaron Haber Aaron Haber Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:10:55 PM This captain is completely out of line. This person is on public land and is far enough away that is is not a safety issue.
Daniel Eduardo Munoz Daniel Eduardo Munoz Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:14:01 PM Not even a police officer can tell you to leave and not film the scene. Unless your obstructing the officer from performing his duty or violating any other public law in the area. Cpt Smart ain't no police officer and he is not defenitely iin charge of all the pubic access. A mic against his camera ain't going to help him out in court if he continues with his "Because I say So" attitude.
Roger Look Roger Look Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:14:38 PM I use a camera a lot, when I am photographing a fire, accident, etc. I never allow any personal info be on the photos I release. no lic. number house address, etc. the save zone is not 300 feet from helicopter. the fire fighter was pushing way out of his line. if this is a safety issue the fire fighter was not properly protecting himself or the other FF that did not have safety gear on. the FF should be removed from duty for his own unsafe way of dress at accident site. the photographer was way plenty in a safe zone. the only info that was being photographed was the name on the fire trucks. oh, I am also a first responder and wear more safety eq. than this fire dept. there are no laws that say that a photographer, press or common man can not film an accident site. if this man took the fireman to court the firemen are going to have to prove this cameraman was in danger and that is had to prove. best tell him and if he gets hurt you did your part telling him. leaving the accident site and not help with the injured could be abandoning the persons in the accident and not look go in court.
Aaron Haber Aaron Haber Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:17:08 PM Nor is he showing the patient. This Capt should have spent more time worrying about the safety of his patient. I have been an EMT for 30 years so I DO know about controling a scene.
Ron Moore Ron Moore Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:18:55 PM Well I have to say that the captain was wrong. The bystander was a safe distance from the situation with it being obvious that there were cars moving past the scene! The captain needs to be counciled and possibly suspended, just my opinion and no i'm not an asshole but the captain was....
Shane Murray Shane Murray Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:19:54 PM I can understand standing by your fellow colleagues. By standing his ground, the videographer stood up for his right to do so... not because he wanted to have video of the patient is distress or whatever the case may be .. the issue became the right of the videographers and had nothing to do with the patient .. if you don't want to get caught doing something wrong, the best way to prevent that is to do nothing wrong...
Wayne Carroll Wayne Carroll Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:20:25 PM The fireman is in control of that scene. If he says back up for safety, you back up. He should have been arrested for tresspassing. But the fireman shouldn't be touching anyone. So they both were wrong.
Corey J Sagstuen Corey J Sagstuen Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:23:51 PM No this Capt was out of line FACT if there was a minimum distance required then FD should have had that locked down. The fact that privet cars are driving within the area, the fact that the flight crew did not abort the approach no at any time did they bother to come over prior to the Pt being off loaded from the Amb. Was Pt care effected..NO was the ID of the Pt protected, yes.. This is simply a hot headed Officer that needs some re-education. If that was a big network would he have done the same thing...i doubt it. Officers on the fire scene need to remember HOW to ask the general public to compile with direction for their safety. BTW I am a Paramedic and a Fire Officer and that crap don't fly in the Dept I serve in.
Shane Murray Shane Murray Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:26:06 PM The fire scene was on the opposite side of the fire trucks.. they determined the boundaries... if the videographer was not allowed to be in the position he was in, then the cars driving by were not allowed to do so either... close off the area completely , have fire police on scene to assure the scene is not compromised... do it right or don't do it at all
Aaron Haber Aaron Haber Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:32:34 PM Sorry, but I beg to differ. He was on public propetry. He was far enough away to not be a safety issue. I do agree the FF was wrong.
Shelly Wilson Shelly Wilson Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:32:37 PM They did it right. The cameraman did not. I, too, work for a fire department. When I tell someone to step back, they step back. If they don't, we don't have LEO in our vicinity, we will physically restrain the bystander and wait for the State Troopers to fly to our community. You battle your amendment rights at a later time. He had the video, and would have had enough video to address his rights AFTER he moved the first time he was asked. You don't stand your ground in the middle of a scene, you do that later.
John Fidazzo John Fidazzo Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:40:17 PM Mr. Smart is"Totally"... Wrong,, If the bystander was in the L-Z area then why didn't he get out of the ambulance before the helicopter landed..#2 why did Mr. Smart only key the mic only on certain times? and why did it take 2 medics to tell 1 person to do something? #3 Why didn't the firefighter directing traffic have him move and why was traffic allow to move during take off and landings when the by-stander was on the other side of the road. I can go on and on.. But Mr. Smart you went way beyond your rank of a EMT or medic what ever you are..Thank god there was only 1 photographer there "or was there" Mr. Smart would of been a very bus man.
David McLeod David McLeod Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:40:26 PM Actually I feel it did take away from the patient as this Capt and FF were in charge of scene safety, but what did the camera man do to impact safety?? Also, with the Capt and FF away from their rig, their focus and reaction time was increased and if something safety related happened, their actions would be delayed, causing a direct impact on the patient and patient (medical) care.
Artie Weber Artie Weber Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:41:09 PM take away? I think not. As IC of a situation, it is his responsibility to over see a safe scene. PD should have been there regardless. PLUS, just comply! He kept trying to edge the Capt on by being resistive to a command. What law? MY FOOT IN YOUR ASS LAW wouldve helped him listen.
Jim Faure Jim Faure Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:43:03 PM captain smart was a complete jagoff
Artie Weber Artie Weber Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:43:48 PM HIPAA and this is the type of idiot. Emergency Service must deal with on a day to day basis. Who's wrong? Simple. LISTEN TO AUTHORITY. period
John Fidazzo John Fidazzo Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:43:58 PM I have been in the fire service and as a medic for over 30 years . If I treated a member of the general public like that I would of been fired. and as a chief i would of fire him on the spot...
Roger Look Roger Look Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:48:09 PM HIPPA does not involve the press just the medical profession. With 11 years on EMS this fireman was way wrong. HIPPA is to stop medical personal from passing info about patients to other people, the press, etc. HIPPA does not cover firefighter on that respond either. The law was poorly wrote.
Edwin Koessler Edwin Koessler Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:51:48 PM Not Smart at all...
Melissa J Taylor Tames Melissa J Taylor Tames Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:54:45 PM I can understand the Captains side if this story certainly. However I believe it could have be dealt with in a better manner rather than acting like a 3 head monster.
Aaron Lingle Aaron Lingle Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:56:27 PM Sorry, but Capt. Smart began the confrontation by being overtly agressive. He was in the wrong! No matter how much we may not like looky-loos, media, or even bystanders checking out our scenes, they have a Constitutional right to be there. This situation could have been handled much more effectively with a more low-keyed approach. The videographer's rights were violated, he was battered (by definition) when Cpt. Smart began touching him in an agrssive manner. I believe that safety on flight scenes are of utmost importance but, if safety was such a concern, why were cars allowed to drive by? If the scene was truly safe and secure then vehicles would never be allowed to continue driving by. That street should have been locked down until the helicopter cleared the scene. There are many problems with this situation and the offending Cpt, as well as the videographer, need to step back an reevaluate how this confrontation was handled. For the record, Capt. Smart, you just made the argument for moronic, musclehead firefighters that much stronger! Thanks for making the rest of us in EMS look like total asses!
Peretz B Olkin Peretz B Olkin Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:56:42 PM Firstly I am pretty sure the bystander's First Amendment rights are being violated. Press and civilians have the same rights of recording a scene. Secondly, touching someone with bloody gloves is battery. Do his gloves harbor a blood borne pathogen, if yes, then he could be charged with attempted murder. Way to go, Captain Smart. I guess you're not so, after all.
Hagen McCollum Hagen McCollum Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:58:45 PM Firstly. Im assuming that the people commenting on this against fire have never done the job. Keep your mouths shut if you dont have a clue. You just sound ignorant. That guy was a DOUCHE. And should have stepped back the FIRST time he was asked. The people DRIVING by BEHIND the dummy were 1) in the protection of a car and 2) further away than him. And WE do have control of a scene until there is no patient/hazard.
Major Hooper Major Hooper Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:01:43 PM Public areas are called public for area on and family members would appreciate the documentation of procedure, especially in light of egocentric firefighters like the one videotaped here. I have been on both sides of this situation as a videographer and as an LZ coordinator and first responder. The firefighter was clearly acting in an unprofessional manner, period.
Shelly Wilson Shelly Wilson Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:06:11 PM Thank you!
Joe McPherson Joe McPherson Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:09:27 PM Wow. I wonder if Capt. Smart is still a captain.
Hagen McCollum Hagen McCollum Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:09:45 PM His goal was not to "stop recording".. His goal was to provide safety. Regardless of the "standard", the appropriate distance at that point in tim is HIS call. That's what it was about. Not the videotaping...
Mike Brown Mike Brown Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:22:24 PM and why was the helo put down like.....20 feet from the ambo?!?
Gina Marie Gina Marie Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:24:41 PM Capt is off the hook.... he is acting like an ass. That videographer poses no threat what so ever, and this was totally unwarranted....
Terry Adam Santiago Terry Adam Santiago Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:31:06 PM So what purpose did it serve you to inconvenience the Fire Department? If he's ttelling you to step back its probably for a reason. The reason being when helicopters take off they kick up a lot of debris. So he was not being a douche. He was looking out for your safety dumbass.
Cindy Lehr Rhame Cindy Lehr Rhame Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:36:33 PM Well said. Touch me with that bloody glove! I freakn DARE u!
Mike Menard Mike Menard Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:41:07 PM I agree with all but #2 the helo pilot will fly any way he wants..powerlins, buildings etc all has to do with the wind direction and speeds.
Mike Menard Mike Menard Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:41:54 PM fact if the matter is they should have stopped the cars whenever the Helo was in motion. I have run plenty of L-Z's and I have never let cars move around while the helo is in approach or departure!! besides at one point in their travel the cars are closer than they bystander..thats a weak argument..
Shawn Perryman Shawn Perryman Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:42:00 PM "I'm a fireman! I'm a fireman! I'm a fireman! I'm a fireman! I'm a fireman! LOL!"
Mike Menard Mike Menard Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:46:17 PM How do you think you have the right to detain him? Are you LEO?
Aaron Haber Aaron Haber Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:52:45 PM Glad you agree.
Mike Menard Mike Menard Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:53:00 PM This is very interesting.. First off the Capt. should have let the first guy try and persuade the photographer to move. He could have said the flight crew wants you to move back and see what happens. The captain bursting in is just the mirror opposite of the Oklahoma trooper and the Paramedic incident. Too much testosterone bubbling through. And then to try and barricade the guy..You have his Car description and his license plate. Let him go and let local Law enforcement deal with it.
Cindy Westfall Turner Cindy Westfall Turner Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:03:06 PM Let's key the mike while we are yelling in a threatening manner! Let's approach a stranger and yell in a threatening manner! Instead of getting a plate number let's stand in front of the car. I think Captain Smart may be suffering from burnout.
Shelly Wilson Shelly Wilson Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:03:33 PM We don't have LEO in our community. I DO have the authority to detain anyone that willfully disregards my directives. Our community is only accessible by air or LEO within 60 air least 30 mins. away. That's how I KNOW, not THINK, I have the right.
Josh Bethune Josh Bethune Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:04:53 PM I agree Jamey Gualdoni.
Josh Bethune Josh Bethune Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:06:52 PM Douche bag thinks he is powerful he's an EMT sounds to me like he abuses his power.
Ryan Palt Ryan Palt Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:07:28 PM "Respect my AUTHORITY!!" haha
Gary Schaut Gary Schaut Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:08:12 PM First Amendment (as per Supreme Court)- Photographers CANNOT be excluded from any area open to the public. If you REALLY need to exclude the photographer, you MUST exclude ALL public including motor vehicle traffic, pedestrians, homeowners on their own property... Always remember TWO things- You can put the yellow tape ANYWHERE you want. And... after you put up the tape, photogs can and will shoot from 1 inch beyond the tape.
Salvatore Delucia Salvatore Delucia Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:14:15 PM In the ER one day happen to walk by a baby that was just delivered in a room and simply said boy or girl and the nurse replied that's a hippa violation and shut the curtain I think that fire Capt and medic were nuts and must be that nurses husband.
Debbie Shepherd Tipton Debbie Shepherd Tipton Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:18:22 PM I do not feel that the reporter was in the wrong..All the Cpt..did was make the rest of look bad..Not very professional at all.I agree with Jamey he should have been fired or got a few days off without pay.....
Sharon McGehee Sharon McGehee Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:20:23 PM Aaron you and i both know what it is to work with people like this. This guy is obviously a tool. The guy video taping wasnt doing anything wrong. From what i could tell he is at a safe distance. I also agree with Mike why the hell was the ambulance so close to the helicopter? I love how the captain says the guy is a combative bystander and the dude hasnt even done anything. This captain crossed the line dramatically.
Tony Cobas Tony Cobas Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:21:37 PM saw the video and the videographer is correct. He was way beyond the limit. This happens all the time and sometimes you are so close that you can feel the wind from the rotation. Also they always use the trucks as barricades as a guide for others (from police officer, civilians and even other firefighters that may be on scence and from this video he seems to be a away from those trucks. The firefighter might just have been pissed that he wasn't selected for the yearly calendar since they don't do much fire fighting down here.
Tony Cobas Tony Cobas Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:23:53 PM BTW...i have the hightest respect for firefighters but down here it is a bit different.
Jerry Snell Jerry Snell Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:35:19 PM IC giving orders concerning safety and HIPPA violations. It is his call and if his work is being impeded by a lookeeloo it is no different than someone pulling a false alarm handle across town. Try wasting a cop's time at a crime scene. You have the right to be stupid but not to bother and harass FD and PD. Common sense and decency is on the photographers shoulders. Is your right to disobey more important than the health care and safety of the patient? SHAME SHAME on the photographer! Maybe the Paramedic SHOULD cut back on the coffee. But that photographer is just a DICK. DICK...
Eileen  Walter Eileen Walter Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:49:20 PM Can anyone say Free Country, this is not a Communism Country. I think someone is on a power trip.
Don DeLancey Don DeLancey Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:49:46 PM If soomeone of authority (fire captain) tells you to leave the area, then do so. If you have issues with that then bring it up with the authorities later but DO AS YOU ARE TOLD FOOL.
John Muravez John Muravez Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:38:17 PM and how was he in the wrong? he was on public land well away from the heli... and this is not a hipaa violation... and then even touching him.... the people of this city will be paying for this ding bats mistake..
John Muravez John Muravez Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:42:07 PM no he couldn't because he claimed personal rights.... so wouldnt have mattered if he moved to a different angle... plus how does he know he is not 300ft aka 1 football field.. hell get the tape out.. I bet he was more... plus now the guy is on private prop after he walked around the bush... he doesn't have the right to say crap to him
George E. Coppinger George E. Coppinger Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:45:36 PM they should promote him .... to MAJOR STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
John Muravez John Muravez Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:51:42 PM there is n privacy in public... thats why its termed public... Hipaa doesn't even apply here.. then they have no right to touch him and they need to tell him a law he is breaking and they didn't there is a difference between dept. policy and law. and I bet the person live in that apt building and wanted to see the heli land and fly off.. anyone with even 1/4 of a brain would know you couldnt see the pt's face from that far away with a smart phone... hell I bet he was more then 300ft aka 1 football field..
John Muravez John Muravez Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:51:48 PM umm no.... not even close... They teach you that but not true. First off there has to be a clear la in place that will even give powers to the person and how many feet etc. second that law wouldn't mean crap on private prop which clearly he was on after he walked around that bush. Third there is no hipaa deal for this.
John Muravez John Muravez Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:13:40 PM you cant even see the person... tell me was it a man or woman?
John Muravez John Muravez Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:21:02 PM there has to be a clear written law not dept. policy.... what is the law he broke? Then you cant say he broke it but no one else driving by did.... plus he is nu a law maker and has no right getting in peoples faces and saying he is doing something illegal... that's slander.. he needs to be fired... he is clearly burnt out...
Mike Hunter Mike Hunter Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:40:14 PM He's an idiot. You can't see the patient and there is plenty of distance for safety. I noticed they didn't shut down the traffic on the street, which he is next to. This firefighter needs to take his steriod injected self back to his recliner in his fire station and finish watching his movie. He should be fired, but I'm sure his union wouldn't allow that.
Joseph Cashman Joseph Cashman Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:42:01 PM Could have been handled a whole lot better. I beleive he must be either a "NEW" Captain or is just full of himself.
M Cory Myers M Cory Myers Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:15:52 PM as a Capt he's not used to anyone ignoring him, with the vehicles driving in the street his defined perimeter is the other side of the street, and no matter how much someone ignores him can't touch.. Just like LA they need sensitivity training.
Kristen McElfresh King Kristen McElfresh King Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:16:15 PM Heres the deal... the camera man was not only too close to the bird, but he was also close enough to the PT to get detailed picture. nobody here nor on scene knows whether or not the camera man has any kind of zoom, or at home software to make this situation into something it isn't, or to use it against the Fire dept. As for taking away from PT care.. being from miami... most of those squads are 3 man crews. which means one was giving report to the flight crew and then the flight crew took off. technically, they aren't needed and they are there for PT and scene safety. which is what they were doing. Any stand up human, when asked to walk away from a scene would do as they were told. Again, being from person turns into many people at a high rate of speed...and the people like to test how far they can go..hence why the camera man was being such a jackass. in miami, shit gets real, real fast...these guys deal with much more than just this...and at the end of the day, they make the rules at their own scene. How many of your Depts have issued bullet proof vests? right.
Gary Schaut Gary Schaut Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:16:19 PM The Constitution of the United States of America. (the medic, not the photog)
Kristen McElfresh King Kristen McElfresh King Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:18:45 PM they guy wasnt being bullied. he was initially asked to leave..and he didnt.
Kristen McElfresh King Kristen McElfresh King Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:20:54 PM and all of you talking about "there was no personal information given" use your heads...the videographer now only has the date, time, dept, truck numbers, etc just from the scene, if he wasnt confronted by the capt, he would have gotten the PT on camera! duh!
Gary Schaut Gary Schaut Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:21:05 PM "he was also close enough to the PT to get detailed picture." Not to inject a bit of truth to this slap fest.. But the media ARE NOT restricted by HIPPA!!!! Hippa is restrictions on the actions of medical providers. The ONLY restrictions on the media is "professional courtesy". Now exactly how much PC do you think this TV station will extend to Miami FD after this video?
Major Hooper Major Hooper Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:22:42 PM Auto correct correction: "...called public for a reason and..." Who loves auto correct as much as I do?
Domen Kleva Domen Kleva Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:25:04 PM I don't know why he shouldn't have filmed this landing. If the landing zone requires 300ft the FD should have cleared and closed the zone before the arrival of the helicopter. If you ask me the zone was secured with an engine, there were some firefighters standing by/on the road to provide safety plus the road was opened for the traffic all the time. So why shouldn't this guy filmed the whole scene from the other side of the road? The identity of the patient was still not revealed as an ambulance car was too far from the camera guy. I believe the cpt. was way wrong and should be under an investigation
Allen Hines Allen Hines Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:59:47 PM the bystander should have been arrested for inferring in a fire and rescue scene.
Jeff Lawson Jeff Lawson Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:02:00 PM hey everyone the captain abused his power by going away from the helicopter he authority was on the other side of the road that's where he should have stayed PERIOD! Frank I have worked around helicopters for many years and the clearance for the blades is 40 feet here in australia not over 100 metres the captain also assaulted the guy by putting his elbow up to the videographer neck which should be classed as an assault the guy wasn't doing anything illegal but staying on the fare side of the road the captain in my view did the wrong thing by clearly going to the other side of the road and engaging the guy with a video camera he didn't have any authorisation under the countys laws or the state laws to move him on so in fact he has abused the position he is/was in and brought miami-dade county in disrepute and should be brought up on charges which this has done.

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