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CPR instructor accused of selling certifications to Calif. EMTs

At least 100 paramedics have not been properly certified; officials are now trying to determine just how far the problem spread

NBC Bay Area

SANTA CLARA, Calif. — At least 100 first responders in the South Bay may not have been properly certified.

The CPR certifications for paramedics and firefighters in the South Bay are in question after new allegations that the person who certified some of them broke the law. A large number of Rural/Metro ambulance service’s paramedics and EMTs had to spend three hours of their weekend in advanced CPR training after state investigators alerted Santa Clara County Emergency Medical Services that their credentials were not in order.

The company says it had more than 100 affected emergency responders take the course. Every two years, paramedics and emergency medical technicians have to take a CPR refresher course, a $20 course available on-line.

Full story: CPR Instructor Accused of Selling Certifications to Santa Clara County EMTs

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Adam Rondeau Adam Rondeau Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:47:45 PM I certainly don't condone faking certifications. But when it comes to something as basic as CPR we really need to ask ourselves if this is a symptom of a greater issue. Perhaps paramedics are really frustrated that they must continue to take such a basic class when they do CPR on a regular basis. Do cab drivers have to take instruction and driver's tests every two years? Not in any city I've been to.. if a paramedic can show documentation for a certain number of cardiac arrests, and perhaps a recorder could prove that he was the one actually doing compressions (if someone is that worried about it) If providers have not done compressions during their job then perhaps those people could be required to take a CPR class. it seems ridiculous to have to take a class on a mannequin when real world experience is much more vital, and the CPR classes are often taught by someone that has never even done CPR in real life! incredible when you think about it.
Steve Cole Steve Cole Friday, February 07, 2014 10:36:15 AM Yes many heqalth care providers feel frustrated that they have to do CPR classes on a regular basis, when they "do it all the time"..but here are the facts: 1- Actual working codes are less than 5% of most agencies call volume. So we hardly "do it all the time" 2- Even when we do do it, we tend to SUCK. Research has shown that yes responders and health cqare providers do CPR...but we do CRAPPY CPR . In fact we average about 48% of the time the compressiosn do not meet standard ; or are not done at all of EVERY MINUTE. This is why some agencies still have a ROSC rate in the single digits while others who do frequent , realistic, hard core trainiing seei ROSC rates in the 20-40% range, and KCM!/Seattle are north of 50% So, yes, I think that not only is CPR trainign needed, its needed MORE than every two years, and it needs to be MORER than an online merit badge course. For more information, there is a ton of information on the need for "high performance" CPR.
Adam Rondeau Adam Rondeau Friday, February 07, 2014 6:57:40 PM Steve, your post reminded me of the people that don't take the job or training seriously. And yes, there are plenty of people that can't remember something as simple as push hard and fast. there are also people that don't practice running codes on a regular basis. I teach ACLS, PALS, etc.. I always recommend that my students practice at least monthly. If EMS workers are not getting enough codes they can also help out in the ER, many hospitals would be happy to notify them when they need extra help. So if EMS workers cant take the initiative to be good at their job and practice things as simple as CPR and running codes, then I guess we need to regulate them. Many rules are set up because a few people ruin it for everybody. And I guess you are right that we need to require standards for everybody then. the problem is that we could require more frequency CPR classes, but EMS workers would still suck at CPR, because they still wouldn't switch out with another provider enough when they get tired, they are still going to forget to push hard and fast if they don't have the proper attitude of learning. And they are still probably not going to practice monthly. So it comes right back to attitude again.

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