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July 16, 2012

Porn star turned EMT could be in trouble over racy past

Harmony Rose appeared in more than 200 pornographic films between 2004 and 2010, is training with Va. rescue squad

By EMS1 Staff

ROANOKE, Va. — A volunteer EMT trainee's previous career as a porn star is attracting the attention of senior officials in Va.

Harmony Rose (born Tracy Rolan), 29, who appeared in more than 200 pornographic films between 2004 and 2010, is training with the Cave Spring Rescue Squad in Roanoke, Va., according to the Huffington Post.

Fire Chief Rich Burch contacted the county attorney when Roanoke Fire & Rescue employees alerted him to Rose's past, said Director of Public Information Teresa Hall.

Attorney Paul M. Mahoney replied in a letter saying that the county does not usually get involved in the decisions of volunteer rescue squads but "anything that results in public ridicule of the volunteer squads... must be avoided."

He also recommended that Chief Burch "supports the decision of the volunteer chief if she decides to terminate the membership of [Rose]."

But nearly all of the 500 or so comments that appear under the story on the reporting TV station's Facebook page support Rose continuing work with the squad.

"It's not like she was doing porn in the squad building," Theodore Hughes said.

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Peter D. Putnam Peter D. Putnam Monday, July 16, 2012 6:22:38 PM bunch of prudes.
Bob McKeever Bob McKeever Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:30:57 AM The woman is willing to put in the time and effort to serve her community. I wonder how many of the self-righteous people that are taking offense are putting in any time serving their own community? If I am having a medical emergency, all I care about is having a qualified EMT to help me. I won't bother to ask for a resume of previous employment.
Elizabeth Miller Elizabeth Miller Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:38:49 AM Why is Burch creating problems for himself? The 'public' wouldn't be up in arms if he wasn't alerting them. If she had robbed over 200 banks, or killed over 200 puppies, he might have a beef.
Robert N Vogt Jr Robert N Vogt Jr Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:59:15 AM Agreed. WTF is wrong with people?
Michael Banks Michael Banks Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:07:52 PM why should her past matter.nobody with a medical emergency will care who she is and what she did before she became an emt.they just want some one who knows what they are doing to care for them.
Jonathan Phillips Jonathan Phillips Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:09:55 PM Wow let's all look down on someone for trying to help people and better themselves, real adult like.
Robb Icely Robb Icely Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:11:44 PM We don't or shouldn't judge a person by how they earn or earned a living, at least not someone who has done nothing illegal. This probably would not have been such an issue if not for certain people making a big deal about it. It's obvious or should be that she cares because after all it's a volunteer service. She should be commended for the change in her life style. Best wishes Tracy, show them what your capable of.
Duane Messner Duane Messner Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:13:08 PM How many of those complaining about a person trying to change their life and help their community don't have skeletons in their closets. If you know what she has done in the PAST, then leave it there. Are people so insecure that they "Judge" a person by what they have done in the past. Stop being so righteous, for as the good book of the christians says " yes that are perfect and have not sinned, then yes may cast the first stone." If every one wasn't so quick to put this information in the news, who would really care what this young lady did in the past.
Tom Harlan Tom Harlan Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:15:19 PM What's wrong with that, she wants to train for the EMT - good for her. Look at all the shady characters in Congress!
Eileen Blaser Eileen Blaser Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:15:51 PM agree with Bob McKeever, as long as she is qualified, there should be no problem except the one 'they" are creating!
Rodney Bassclef Rodney Bassclef Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:22:36 PM What does one thing have to do with another? Can't relate one to the other...
Teresa Perry Cook Teresa Perry Cook Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:24:44 PM I think its great she wants to make a new start. And if the public officials ridicule her for her past then they r no better than a racist person telling someone they can't go to church cause they r black....our past is just that...our past....its called the past for a reason...let it stay there..we r not perfect and no where close to living n a perfect world and im sure we've all done stuff we aren't proud of..im rootn for u harmany...u can do this! Prove em all wrong
Miles Feather Miles Feather Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:29:36 PM God bless her and good luck! I don't think any of us that have posted or read this article have not lead a perfect and spotless life. If she passes, has good skills and Cave Spring Rescue Squad in Roanoke, Va doesn't want her she'll be welcomed at our squad. The key point to remember that the patient that she is helping doesn't care what she use to do, they care about what she is doing now!
FrGlenn Glorioso FrGlenn Glorioso Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:30:19 PM This is the best we can do? Did she commit any crimes? Last I checked, even a felon, after ten years can certify as an EMT. So what is the problem here. She actually wants to serve her community, more power to her!
Jerry Thorne Jerry Thorne Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:30:53 PM If she can pass the classes and do the job, who gives a damn what she used to do? The only stipulation I've ever seen on EMS was the criminal history check and the drug test.
Bob McFalls Bob McFalls Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:34:27 PM Good for her!
Jeanine Newhouse Jeanine Newhouse Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:39:34 PM The past is the past. Period.
Jonathan A. Romero Jonathan A. Romero Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:39:51 PM Don't define this lady by her past errors. I say give her the chance to do some small measure of good in the station she is assigned to.
Charles M. Smith Charles M. Smith Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:43:19 PM she is moving on into something great, what the heck is the issue!
Chris Rodites Chris Rodites Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:44:26 PM We all have a past. Let the woman alone. Congrats on your service!
Chris Craft Chris Craft Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:46:49 PM What's the difference in porno and politics both are X-RATED so does that meam policians can't volunteer
William 'Bill' Feyh William 'Bill' Feyh Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:49:35 PM She can't get a job there, I know where she can.
Lew Epright Jr. Lew Epright Jr. Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:50:06 PM It just goes to show you how shallow our world has become , its 2012 Chief , people are not banging down our doors to VOLUNTEER anymore , now your going to turn away someone for something she did in her past (past being no longer does) , If people were turned away for something they have done in your past 1/2 the people wouldn't be aloud! grow a set , tuck in your skirt and let the woman volunteer ( until she gives you a valid reason to forbid her to )!
Scott Childs Scott Childs Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:53:18 PM AGREED....
Michael J Glodic III Michael J Glodic III Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:54:19 PM Last I checked being in adult films was not illegal. If she wants to become a E.M.T and serve her community she should be allowed to. They should be standing beside her and supporting her rather than look for a way to get rid of her.
Amy Lemmon Amy Lemmon Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:58:19 PM that's crazy. people need to grow up
BK Woody BK Woody Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:59:44 PM agree!
Scott Childs Scott Childs Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:02:41 PM Way to go, Chase away an EMT just because she did porn. PORN is not a CRIME. Chief Rich Burch you have some issues you need to get over. First and foremost the boner in your pants...
Shane Wreck Seiber Shane Wreck Seiber Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:04:36 PM This is political bullshit.... if she is willing to put the time in for school and passes the test, what difference does her past profession have to do with it. This is discrimination plain and simple. And if they decide to terminate her application on a Volunteer Dept because of it, I say, She sue the Fuck out of them.... with all this public attention now, she would win the case with no problems.
Edward Thach Edward Thach Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:05:28 PM Amen to that!!
Kenneth Powers Kenneth Powers Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:06:18 PM Scott, I think from the story the Chief does support her, but contacted the attorney for legal advice. Can't blame the guy for seeking legal guidance in a day and age where everyone sues. (That's how I interpreted the story.)
Jim Ness Jim Ness Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:08:11 PM True, but if your a guy and you are already having some heart problems having some sexy beast like that could push you right over the edge into a full code! J/K If she passes the national registry test let her practice!
Henry Bariteau III Henry Bariteau III Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:08:33 PM What was that saying? Let yea who is without sin cast the first stone? Please, how many people who are complaining have ever done volunteer community service?
Seth Toy Seth Toy Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:09:12 PM She would make a good partner on the rig
Chris Sinderman Chris Sinderman Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:09:26 PM I fully support her if she is willing to put the time and training go for it Tracy and if they for some reason say no to you move on and find a department that will there are plenty of departments in need of E.M.T's and Fire Fighters. so basically I agree with Bob and also I can I have been on fire and rescue for12 years and I don't care about peoples past as long as they put the time and training. Good Luck Tracy!
Kevin K. Harris Kevin K. Harris Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:14:18 PM I guess it will just have to become Harmony Rose Fire & Rescue inc. She has no criminal history? Not a child molester? Not a drug dealer? Has no outstanding warrants? Follows the rules and regulations? I'm sure none of those types have ever gotten into the VFD right? Right. Piss on leadership that is more afraid of losing their job than doing their jobs. Piss on them. They think they might get bad publicity? Just wait till the ACLU gets hold of this... Oh boy.
Paul Bernard Jr. Paul Bernard Jr. Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:19:49 PM "have volunteer trainees as young as 16 and 17 years old." If these parents make a big deal about Harmony being on the squad with their children, they are the biggest hypocrits ever. "Sure, go ahead and let my son/daughter volunteer train with you guys and see dismemberment, eviseration, etc while at car accidents. But hell no do I want my son/daughter to have the kind of role model who decides to better their lives and do something to help out their community." I would work along beside her any day. Not because of her past, but because she was willing to give it all up just so she could help save people's lives... as a VOLUNTEER. -Fellow EMT and Paramedic Student.
Scott Childs Scott Childs Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:21:38 PM The attorney said he reccomends the Chief support her.
Jarrod Michael Kozee Jarrod Michael Kozee Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:23:18 PM But if she was an investment banker previously, raising rates on home mortgages in order to sell them again at higher profits, she would have been commended. Society has a lot wrong with it if she can't continue her training.
Douglas Burns Douglas Burns Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:23:30 PM How many vollies and career individuals have done not so upstanding things in their past and got away with it, and went on to deliver a baby, save a rescue victim or brought back grandma after she had a heart attack? Shall we all start throwing stones at each other? Sorry if the Chief removes her, then he is a worthless piece of skin. Let the girl alone.
Shawn Mclaughlin Shawn Mclaughlin Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:25:22 PM agreed, sir!
Linda Snuggs Kelly Aucoin Linda Snuggs Kelly Aucoin Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:30:52 PM Banging down the doors....now that's funny!
Linda McMillion Linda McMillion Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:35:05 PM they are jealous
Mike Ribbink Mike Ribbink Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:47:02 PM I agree i dont care about the past work history as long as she is a good EMT who the hell cares
Johnny Nugent Johnny Nugent Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:07:46 PM Who cares about the past? She wants to serve here community and as a volunteer.
Jerry Sprouse Jerry Sprouse Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:19:10 PM Every Porn star alive should be insulted that you compared them to politicians..
Edward Skompski Edward Skompski Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:29:22 PM I know a lot of people who have probably never watch porn who I would not want helping me out in any situation. Let her save lives if that is what she wants to do. We praise criminals who change their lives while in prison, so why not let someone who (by the way) has not broken any laws go do something different.....
Richard Griffin Richard Griffin Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:29:28 PM It was ok for our past president of the USA to have sex Monica. What the EMT done has no bearing on the job she is doing now and she is doing a service to her community for nothing.
Richard Griffin Richard Griffin Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:32:34 PM I support her, The job she is doing now as a EMT and she is doing it for nothing and a service for the community she is serving. Hell our EX President had sex with another woman while he was the president, and that was ok.
Aaron Haber Aaron Haber Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:32:45 PM All the power to her. I wsh her good luck.
George S. Robinson III George S. Robinson III Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:58:24 PM I guess they have plenty of Volunteers?? Mundane Dumbasses....>:)
Ronda Owens Vanek Ronda Owens Vanek Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:01:52 PM She should not be made to feel ashamed of her past. There are more people that watch porn, go to strip clubs, etc... that wouldn't admit to it if there life depended on it. She is making a career change...bottom line. If she can pass the requirements to become an EMT, more power to her!
Jay Mensack Jay Mensack Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:10:18 PM David Lee Roth is an EMT and he's a filty pig!
Keith Kachel Keith Kachel Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:11:40 PM Anyone who has ever worked in Emergency Services know it takes a certain type of twisted person to be able to handle the type of shit you face on EMS calls. She will fit right in. I bet the people pissing and moaning about this are all the stereotypical over weight pimple faced EMT's and medics that can't get laid from a hooker. I hope she sues the shit out of them for slander and discrimination.
Bradley Abram Thompson Bradley Abram Thompson Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:34:35 PM As a paramedic, I would not have a problem having her as my partner. I have known some people working for PAID departments with equally as "politically incorrect" backgrounds (perhaps worse) as this young woman. People are seriously getting on her case for VOLUNTEERING? This should not be a newsworthy issue, and if you've ever watched any sort of "adult entertainment" you are in no position to judge (which would probably eliminate all of the people taking offense in the first place). This EMT deserves to be respected just as much as any other EMT/Paramedic/Fire Fighter/Police Officer, etc.. I think it's sad that the people who are often judged the most critically in our society would also be the first ones to try and save your life in a time of need, regardless of your resume...way to go, America.
Deborah Eastin Deborah Eastin Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:43:53 PM Wonderful that she's doing such constructive work.
Tony Coroniti Tony Coroniti Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:55:35 PM Who cares what her past employment was. She is working on her future. I do not see the problem.
Troy Parker Troy Parker Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:57:56 PM If she didn't do anything illegal, WHO really cares. I know a ton of EMT's that weren't on the straight and narrow before becoming EMTs. If she can complete the the training and the back ground check ( DOJ) then she should be allowed to serve. For good sakes if David Lee Roth can make paramedic, she should be able to make EMT.
Sean-Samantha Brewer Sean-Samantha Brewer Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:06:04 PM Unless what she did in the past is criminal, let her practice. This country needs the volunteers. If she is willing to put in the time and get the certifications, good for her and her community!
Maggie Riedinger McMaster Maggie Riedinger McMaster Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:23:07 PM go for it, girl!
Tom Palmer Tom Palmer Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:24:40 PM She could really help with a Viargra overdose
Maggie Riedinger McMaster Maggie Riedinger McMaster Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:25:16 PM sick bastid! lol :)
Bill Conner Bill Conner Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:32:45 PM Like I said in an earlier post. Don't hate her because she was smart enough to get paid for it.
Jeff Miller Jeff Miller Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:45:17 PM We are taught not to be judgemental to anyone while one scene, you would think that would extend to the station. I guarantee you that anyone who is protesting against this lady would have a change of heart if they needed an EMT for their emergency.
Matt MacDonald Matt MacDonald Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:52:14 PM If David Lee Roth/Diamond Dave can do it....why not. Who the hell cares anyway? You show up at an emergency scene and you help someone, no resume required at that point.
Brenda McLaurin Brenda McLaurin Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:07:11 PM I feel for her, unfortunately she is deep in the Bible belt (Jerry Falwell/Liberty Baptist Church/College very near to Roanoke) she is as good as gone...
Randy Robeson Randy Robeson Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:13:47 PM can she do the job or not?, as long as she is not pursuing her previous career on calls what's it matter, your life might be the next one she saves.
Jeff Miller Jeff Miller Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:25:15 PM I certainly hope not as I dont think anyone should be punished for not breaking the law. Many in the biblebelt tend to heed these words....Love you neighbor as you love yourself. There is also that whole "cast the first stone" thing. If the lady is trying to start a new chapter in her life why hinder that?
Brenda-Joyce Orozco Markert-Green Brenda-Joyce Orozco Markert-Green Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:28:04 PM Sexuality doesn't seem to matter when it comes to men; why is it always an issue with women? It doesn't prevent her from doing her job, or from serving her community!
Mike John Mike John Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:49:25 PM Did she commit a felony? No! Next topic!
Nancy M. Withers Nancy M. Withers Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:16:40 PM Also, "Judge not that ye be not judged!"
Laura Szymanski Laura Szymanski Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:27:39 PM I'm all for her wanting to help...who's to say what's ok as a past profession and what's not..just because there are people who don't agree or support our troops nobody would ever say oh well they kill people for a living so maybe they shouldn't be allowed to serve either..its ridiculous. its her business and she has every right!
Melanie Ellis Melanie Ellis Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:38:17 PM Damn! they caught me!!! :)
Chavo Solano Chavo Solano Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:46:13 PM she can be my partner anyday!!
Terry Scalise Flanigan Terry Scalise Flanigan Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:51:54 PM With the shortage of volunteers, who cares what she did in her past?
Zoey Bear Tur Zoey Bear Tur Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:45:14 PM THE VERY SAME MEN, CONSUMERS OF HER PAST PRODUCTS, ARE THE FIRST TO COMPLAIN. WTF is wrong with people.
Frank Plunkett Frank Plunkett Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:55:19 PM Crazy people. Leave her be and let her serve in the way she desires. Here former career is not relevant to the current situation. Was any part of her previous employment illegal? This is out and out discrimination based upon values.
Catie Holstein Catie Holstein Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:02:02 PM There are no words for how angry this makes me. So, let me get this straight, "anything that results in public ridicule of the volunteer squads must be avioded", so I'd like to see a question on all volunteer applications asking if potential candidates have participated in, viewed, purchased, or have had any exposure to pornography in their past, and if that's the case, we wouldn't want anything that results in public ridicule of the volunteer squads, therefore they should be excluded from EMS. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. How ridiculous. Let the woman provide care.
Dan Mayo Dan Mayo Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:12:11 PM roanoke is so stuped they never talk about the good they always talking about the bad I bet if she open her door and said come eat some fish they would dive in she wants to save lives if yall keep crying what the babys going to do senior officials grow up we are not in your world.
Liz Fleiss Liz Fleiss Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:18:13 PM the past is the past. why can't people leave it alone?
Jace Simmonds Jace Simmonds Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:00:12 PM And what's the problem. Many a person has had to work at whatever it takes to support their family and to get an education. Some don't get things handed to them on a platter. Some don't get the welfare hand me outs. If she is willing to learn, put in the hours and the effort, there should be absolutely no reason she shouldn't be an EMT with their department. It is so difficult to get people to volunteer anymore because of lawsuits and such, but If she wants to do it, then she should be able to..after all, lawsuits go both ways. She shouldn't be discriminated against because of her past work. She will have to develop a tough hide no pun intended) in order to sluff off the deragatory comments that the idiots of this society will throw her way, but if she is up for it, then what's the problem?
Jace Simmonds Jace Simmonds Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:01:33 PM Again, after all some of us are not the best looking people on the planet, but it is not how we look, it is what we know!
Dan Levasseur Dan Levasseur Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:51:43 AM Its a disgrace to judge someone on their past. Being in porn movies is not illegal. EMT's get f#@ked everyday for far less money.
D.j. Farrer D.j. Farrer Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:00:32 AM Who is anyone to cast a stone and say this woman cannot do this job - She is willing to put the past in the past and make a better life for herself and your going to judge her because of her past - Even people that go to jail are given a second chance in life - what the heck is wrong with you people - did not even Jesus say he who is without sin cast the first stone and who was he protecting or do we forget things just because we don't like hearing or seeing them - Let her do her job.......
Joe Ansman Joe Ansman Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:22:31 AM The past is the past, leave it behind her. Everyone has done something in our past that has come back to bite us.I say he has never done ANYTHING wrong can through the first stone.
Michael Amborski Michael Amborski Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:27:20 AM sure, scare off the attractive ones.... -_-
George Gaines George Gaines Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:36:33 AM What's the big deal she not hurting any one and how's is one to better themsefts if we don't give them a chance to do so and I agree with Bob.
Lorraine Cochran Lorraine Cochran Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:44:04 AM Good for her go for it, what she used to do or does on the side does not mean she wouldn't be an excellent EMT, and I think she deserves the right to improve herself as we all do.
William H. Murdoch Jr. William H. Murdoch Jr. Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:55:05 AM When I was an EMT, I dream"t of being a porn star!
Raymond Ironfist Williams Raymond Ironfist Williams Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:35:24 AM I don't think the guy having a heart attack is going to say, "hey, wern't you in........" She obviously wants to do something different with her life, let her. Lew is right, nobody's banging down the volunteer doors. Let her serve her community in a positive way.
Desiree Taylor Desiree Taylor Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:49:40 AM If they didn't care before she got the job why cause trouble for her now that she has it!!!! ppl need to grow up its not like she's showing up on a call necked and giving blow jobs!
Vito Leone Vito Leone Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:54:31 AM l
Mina Presley Mina Presley Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:04:01 AM I think its hot as hell.if she can do the job that is all that matters not her past.
Raymond Ironfist Williams Raymond Ironfist Williams Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:08:09 AM Really, Des?
Paula Coleman Paula Coleman Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:49:03 AM some people need to get their heads out of their rearends and reconise good people for who they are..not what they have done.give em hell tracy I am for u.
Elizabeth C. O'Connor Elizabeth C. O'Connor Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:38:49 AM And just what is being done to the employees that have apparently been watching those porn videos? Probably nothing! A bit of a double standard, I think. It's okay to be on one side of the camera, but not the other?
Anthony Patrovanie Anthony Patrovanie Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:43:57 AM If she's training to save lives, then let her do so without the stress of being ridiculed due to her past activities. Everyone deserves a second chance in life and we are all not perfect, we learn from our mistakes. Whatever she did in the past should be cast aside and she should be allowed to expand on her new dream.
Suzanne Ahern Maslyn Suzanne Ahern Maslyn Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:42:38 AM I vote to let her work as an EMT! If she passed the background check and qualifies for the position, let her work. Look to the future...not the past.
Billy Wood Billy Wood Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:00:24 AM I'm sure if she was in mine or any of your squads she would be treated like every other member with the occasional ballbusting. We are a brotherhood/sisterhood and there's no need to turn someone away because of their past. How many firefighters and EMTs in this country have had drug or alcohol problems in the past I mean cmon people.
Bobby Wade Bobby Wade Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:39:14 AM The past is just that...the past. If she puts the time and effort to get her cert good for her!

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