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September 17, 2012
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The Ambulance Driver's Perspective
by Kelly Grayson

EMS: A not-so-exclusive club

Community abuzz over lack of background checks when plenty of our colleagues manage to besmirch EMS's reputation with clean arrest records

By Kelly Grayson

 

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." - Groucho Marx

"Hey, Kelly, you got a minute?" He stood hesitantly outside my office door after class hours, looking around nervously as if he were afraid of being caught having a private conference with the instructor.

"Sure, man, what's up?" I answered agreeably, motioning him to a chair. Of my paramedic students in that class, he was one of the better ones.

"Well, it's about that missing paperwork from my files. The felony affidavit?"

"Look, if you forgot it, just bring it in on Monday. We've got a little time."

"No." he blushed. "I've got it right here. It's just that, if I turn it in... I'll have to mark yes on it or lie and say that I don't have a felony conviction."

"You're a convicted felon?" I blinked. I was flabbergasted.

"Yeah, a long time ago." He nodded. "I was 17. They tried me as an adult."

"Well, I don't want you to lie on your felony affidavit, but it's not the end of the world," I said, trying to put the best face on the situation. "There are felonies, and then there are felonies, if you know what I mean. What were you convicted of?"

"Armed robbery."

"Oh. Well." Apparently, my student had committed a felony.

"And drug possession."

"Um..."

"And resisting by flight, and five counts of grand theft auto..."

"Hold on a second," I interrupted. "How did you even get into a paramedic class with a record like that?"

"Well, I filled out my felony affidavit for my EMT class, but I suspect my instructor never sent it in. And my paramedic instructor before you never asked us for one."

"So you managed to become a NREMT-B with that record, and no one knew it until you told me?"

"Yeah, that's about it. So what do I do?"

"You send in the correct felony affidavit to the NREMT, along with as much supporting documentation as you can muster," I sighed, "and you keep your fingers crossed. Frankly, I wouldn't hold out much hope."

**********

That conversation happened nearly 15 years ago. My student, at age 17, had been a mixed-up kid with a drug habit and undiagnosed bipolar disorder when he committed his crimes.

As it turned out, the National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians was sympathetic to his pleas for leniency, as impressed by how dramatically he had turned his life around as I was, and ruled that he had paid his debt to society and was free to continue his EMS career.

No doubt the glowing affidavits written by his probation officer, his psychiatrist, the presiding judge and the prosecuting attorney probably influenced the decision.

I often wonder today how different his life might have been – and the lives of the patients he treated over the years since – if even one of us had chosen to judge him by five days of misdeeds and ignored the life he had led in the 10 years after his conviction.

Recently, EMS forums have been abuzz with news of another couple of supposed miscreants who have somehow made it past the hallowed portals of EMS certification and joined our little fraternity. Many of the posters on those forums have expressed their outrage and indignation that such people were even allowed to enter our honored profession, convinced that the reputation of EMS will be forever besmirched by association.

Never mind that plenty of our colleagues manage to besmirch the reputation of EMS quite handily with clean arrest records.

Recently, it came to the attention of officials in Roanoke County, Va., that an EMT named Tracy Rolan, already several months into her probationary period with the Cave Springs Volunteer Rescue Squad, had acted in over 200 pornographic films under the stage name Harmony Rose.

The revelation disturbed Roanoke County Fire Chief Rick Burch so much that he sought legal advice on the matter from the county attorney. In his letter replying to Chief Burch, Roanoke County Attorney Paul Mahoney pointed out:

"It has been the practice of Roanoke County not to interfere in the internal membership decisions of volunteer rescue squads like Cave Spring. These decisions are left to the volunteers.

"... They must exhibit the highest degree of trustworthiness and public esteem since they will be dealing with citizens when they are most vulnerable, or entering citizens' homes and businesses under emergency circumstances. Anything that results in public ridicule of volunteer squads, departments, or the County must be avoided." 

That sounds reasonable enough, but Mahoney's letter ends with this sentence:

"It is my recommendation that you support the decision of the volunteer chief if she decides
to terminate the membership of this individual."

Translation: "Now, we're not going to tell you to get rid of her, but it sure would be swell if that's what happened."

Keep in mind that Tracy Rolan passed a criminal background check. She has never been convicted of a crime. There have been no reports of misconduct as an EMT.

Yet people are worried that the presence of a former adult film actress will be a bad influence on 16- and 17-year-old trainees or that she'll somehow ruin the marriages of the male volunteers, apparently because of some mystic porn star mojo that clouds the minds of otherwise morally upright and happily married men.

I ask you, which is more shameful: that the EMT performing chest compressions on your father used to have sex on camera for money, or the fact that the EMT only needed 1/10 the educational hours as the person that did her hair and makeup for those films?

The minimum EMT course in Virginia is 154 hours -- to administer EpiPens, metered dose inhalers, oral glucose, splinting, oxygen, defibrillation bleeding control -- while it takes ten times as long to do hair and nails, 1,500 hours to get a cosmetology license.

That is what is offensive.

Pornographic actress Nina Hartley was a registered nurse before her film career took off. She was a college graduate and healthcare provider, yet she made her fortune having sex on camera and shaking her moneymaker in strip clubs. Where was the brouhaha that her second career must surely have raised in the nursing profession?

Although, to be fair, I may have missed it. In 1984, I was a lot more interested in porn than nursing advocacy journals..

Four years ago, Robert Melia Jr. made international news after being indicted for sexually assaulting three young girls and engaging in sex acts with several cows. Yet when the former Moorestown, N.J., cop renewed his EMT certification later that year, he checked "no" in the box asking if he had ever been accused of a crime.

No one caught it for over two years.

That's two years Robert Melia could have been in contact with vulnerable girls or been distracted by the sight of comely cattle every time he went to a rural rescue scene.

And yet no one knows if he did, or even how many other men like Robert Melia might be out there, because the New Jersey State First Aid Council, in its quest to keep EMS in that state firmly rooted in the 1970s, managed to get Governor Christie to gut the EMS Redesign Bill via line-item veto earlier this year.

That bill, had it been left intact, would have standardized and streamlined EMS regulation in N.J. and enacted more stringent certification requirements of EMS personnel – including criminal background checks.

Every state should make criminal background checks mandatory, although the CBI isn't the panacea some would make it out to be. The ultimate decision to hire or fire should be left with the employer or squad membership, but they should at least have access to information upon which to base their decisions.

A criminal background check may turn up an armed robbery conviction, as it would have in the case of my former student, but the facts of the case could still be reviewed by prospective employers and credentialing organizations.

For example, in some states, a conviction for public nudity or indecent exposure can land you on the sex offender registry. Know what qualifies as indecent exposure in some states? Mooning.

Let he who hath never participated in a drunken fraternity initiation cast the first stone.

But the issue here isn't criminal background checks or the lack thereof. The real issue is EMS being held back by people and organizations with skewed priorities or more investment in protecting personal fiefdoms than advancing the profession.

In Roanoke, it's county officials worrying about what an EMT did in a former career while conveniently ignoring how shamefully easy it is to become an EMT in the first place. We set lofty moral standards yet cheat our patients with educational requirements less stringent than that required of journeyman plumbers.

In N.J., we have an organization dedicated to preserving the personal fiefdoms of a score of rescue squads who believe that volunteerism should trump professional standards, with the result that a convicted child molester and zoophile was still able to practice as an EMT for over two years.

There may be others, but Jersey's lack of mandatory criminal background checks makes it impossible to be sure.

Ask yourself which is the greater threat to our profession: practicing pedophiles and porn stars, or educational standards so low that EMT textbooks are written at the 8th-grade reading level?

I invite your comments...

About the author


Kelly Grayson, NREMT-P, CCEMT-P, is a critical care paramedic in Louisiana. He has spent the past 18 years as a field paramedic, critical care transport paramedic, field supervisor and educator. He is a former president of the Louisiana EMS Instructor Society and board member of the LA Association of Nationally Registered EMTs.

He is a frequent EMS conference speaker and contributor to various EMS training texts, and is the author of the popular blog A Day In the Life of an Ambulance Driver. The paperback version of Kelly's book is available at booksellers nationwide. You can follow him on Twitter (@AmboDriver) or Facebook (www.facebook.com/theambulancedriverfiles), or email him at kelly.grayson@ems1.com.

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Elizabeth Miller Elizabeth Miller Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:23:10 AM The past is the past. Twelve years ago, I was the messiest of the messiest; I was even barred from a party because the host was afraid he'd have to call an ambulance on me and spoil everyone else's buzz. Today nobody'd ever doubt my dedication to helping others through EMS. My secret super power is empathy towards others who have yet to find their way, and I applaud those who have been 'tested by fire' and come through it better than before.
Gordon McDermid Gordon McDermid Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:47:33 PM Each and every criminal, at some point, committed their first crime...
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:13:27 PM Which means what, exactly?
Alan W. Rose Alan W. Rose Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:58:12 PM I think what he's saying is that even a squeaky clean career Paramedic may one day commit a crime. True, but not relevant.
Greg Friese Greg Friese Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:13:07 PM Strong work, especially the use of besmirch.
Skip Kirkwood Skip Kirkwood Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:56:59 PM It is difficult to judge questions of character, morals, behavior, and.... just plain luck. I shudder to think the many stupid things that I did in another era, that in the current politically correct days can land you in the slammer or on a register. It's a real puzzler (well, except for the part about the shameful educational standards). On one hand, you'd like to think that people can change. On the other hand, if you call it wrong, you put innocents at risk. And you will be held accountable in a very unforgiving court of public opinion. I know that agencies that I think of as "professional" and "competent" believe that character is formed at a young age and really doesn't change. The Secret Service and the NSA don't take a chance on a leopard changing its spots. I don't know how the medical boards make their decisions. I do know that EMS personnel have unfettered, unsupervised access to very vulnerable people, and that dictates an extra measure of caution, whatever that may be.
Bruce A Mills Bruce A Mills Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:12:27 PM I will refrain from ever saying " Back in the day " ever again
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:08:31 PM We should hold our EMT's to an higher standard, Skip, especially considering the recidivism rate for pedophiles. I just think that holding them to higher standards ought to begin with *requiring* higher standards for entry in the first place.
Skip Kirkwood Skip Kirkwood Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:27:52 AM I think that's a good concept, and I agree with it. It's the application of it that is challenging. "A higher standard" means that there is some baseline standard, and I don't clearly know what that is. And how much higher? And for how long? Do you exclude somebody for a youthful stupid act that was accompanied by bad luck? OK, if we dismiss a 20-year old DUI, then do we dismiss a 20-year old death by auto? Same bad act (drinking while driving); one guy was unlucky enough to have a person struck and the other not. ????
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:48:43 AM Oh, I'm not talking so much about personal history and arrest records as I am about educational standards. Intuitively, it seems to me (although I have no data to back it up) that requiring a college degree would weed out undesirables a bit better than the current "high school diploma, tuition check and draw this stethoscope" model we currently have. I think criminal background checks should be mandatory at the outset of training, but cases should be reviewed on an individual basis. And at least in Louisiana, RN certification has some version of a morals clause. Certain things, though not specifically crimes or even felonies, will keep you from renewing your license until cleared up, or at least until a review board has considered the case. Might not be a bad model to emulate, although I have seen some nurses' license renewals held up for some of the silliest things.
Alan W. Rose Alan W. Rose Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:54:23 PM Higher standards = higher pay. The bean counters won't allow it. There probably aren't many EMS providers who would like an open face accounting of everything they've ever done and not been caught at. Leopards can't change their spots, but tigers do get dirty from time to time.
Jacob Miheve Jacob Miheve Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:51:38 PM Unfortunately, in some areas (like here in SW VA), requiring a college degree for an EMT-B would simply leave those areas with no EMS coverage at all (or coverage based a minimum of 30-45 minutes away). There are areas where the local tax base can't support a paid crew, and it's the rare volunteer that will spend the time and money for even an associate's degree just to volunteer. We've already seen that effect since the degree requirement was added for paramedics - very, very few volunteer squads have anyone certified above EMT-I anymore, and those few are people who also work paid jobs as medics. I'm not sure how to address this issue, but it's something that needs to be considered when people talk about "higher standards". Also, you may want to consider the possibility that the educational requirements for EMT-B's are not too low, but that the requirements for cosmetology or plumbing (or other) licenses may be artificially inflated for purposes of career protectionism. Requiring a college degree for EMT-B strikes me as a bit of overkill.
Skip Kirkwood Skip Kirkwood Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:00:32 PM Jacob - do those areas have schools, plumbers, highway repair folks? Trash collectors and barbers? Do they work for free? If the answers are yes and no, then those areas would only go without EMS if they make a conscious CHOICE to go without EMS. And who are we to argue with them - choices about what to do with your money are central to the American way!
Jacob Miheve Jacob Miheve Friday, September 28, 2012 7:17:59 AM Highway repair folks? Paid by the state, not the locality. Schools? Heavily subsidized by the state and even federal .gov, and even then they're often only a bare minimum. Trash collectors? In many areas, they do not - people take their own trash to a few centralized dumpster sites. Plumbers and barbers? Not really relevant, but many of those areas do not - people have to go to "town", often 20-30 minutes away or more, for a haircut, and call a plumber from elsewhere. Certain parts of my own squad's run area are 15-20 minutes away *minimum* at our ambulances' best speed, and we are the closest squad. We're also in a county with a good tax base due to the presence of a major state university - the two towns supporting (and essentially supported by) the university create the tax base that pays for most of the services in the rest of the county - and pretty good EMS coverage compared to neighboring counties. "No EMS coverage at all" may be slight hyperbole, but if a college degree is ever required for B's it might not be - a 30-45 minute minimum response time even with a 0 minute reaction time might as well be no coverage at all. Like I said, we're already seeing this with ALS in my area. Even on my extremely well funded and well staffed squad, there's only one medic who isn't also a paid medic elsewhere, and he's a retired lawyer who did it because volunteer EMS has become his retirement "hobby". Every squad around here relies heavily on state-certified Intermediates for ALS care.
Skip Kirkwood Skip Kirkwood Friday, September 28, 2012 1:25:58 PM I understand what you are saying - this is today's "box", where communities expect that labor in EMS will be provided "free" by volunteers. There is no law of physics that say that it has to be that way. Whether it is paid by the county, the state, or the town, those other services are "public" services and the public pays for them. My point is that people have come to expect "free" EMS so that is the current business model. If we start to educate people that the model doesn't work, people in the community can engage in an informed dialog and perhaps come to the conclusion that expectations of good, fast, free EMS are unreasonable. Then, they can decide to either find a way to fund it, or make the decision to go without it. I think that many of us are afraid of that conversation, so we struggle mightily to keep it from happening - thwarting the rights and the obligations of citizens to build community services by consensus of the communities. So there is a county in another state where EMS and snow plowing are both county functions. EMS is provided by volunteers, and is failing. Snow removal is provided by paid county employees. An EMS consultant friend of mine was trying to help them understand the problem, and suggested "How about for one year, we pay the EMS folks and let the volunteers drive the snowplows?" Why not? It's a matter of public policy and informed decisions.
Doug Zalud Doug Zalud Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58:42 AM I think an additional thing to consider in this is the additional time and cost of doing the investigations at the beginning of the application process. With the economy so bad, employees doing more work, etc, many government agencies don't want to expend the time, money, and manpower to deal with this. The application gets filled out, and the paperwork goes nowhere. A crack as wide as the Grand Canyon of our own making. Now the education requirements, well, that's another story...
Jeremiah Underwood Jeremiah Underwood Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:32:28 AM Personally, I believe the greater threat is the educational standards. That being said, I do believe that background checks should be mandatory. My service requires one for every new applicant or else they simply throw the application away. Also, here in NC, we are told that a background check is performed on every certified EMT, no matter the level, everyday. I'm not completely sure this is true, but I believe it is. Speaking as one that has a small smudge on my record from the distant past, I do know that the NC state office of EMS will give you the chance to explain said smudges. Back to the point, educational standards absolutely need to be raised for EMS, both here in NC and around the country. As to the how and to what level, I will leave for another day...it seems this is an ongoing problem and there are many opinions on the matter.
Cheryl Limer Miller Cheryl Limer Miller Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:01:12 AM I've had a few folks in EMT classes with minor age-old records (i.e. one incidence of assault in a bar fight 20 years previous) who did not fair so well in the worthiness-to-take-an-EMT-class check. I am glad to hear that that one worked out as it should; and I am also sorely frustrated by the lack of justice and appropriate oversight within the ranks of those who are currently active in the field. But to be quite honest, I do believe that practicing pedophiles, drug addicts, thieves and other such are a greater threat than the weak educational system. I have spent many years and much blood/sweat/tears to improve the education of EMT's as an instructor and FTO, but it all goes down the toilet when one EMT in a community commits a crime against a patient. All the education in the world doesn't do us a spit of good if the community thinks of THAT when they see the patch on your shoulder. And yes, private service folks bear the brunt of that effect far more than the fire service or police ever will. I am absolutely in favor of case-by-case evaluation of the results of background checks, and I honestly think there can be a place in EMS for folks who have done (but not ARE DOING) crimes against the community or...whatever other activity of questionable wisdom. But I am very committed to a higher moral standard for EMS (and yes, police and fire folks as well) and I suspect that education/training is not enough to raise the bar there.
Daniel S. Syme Daniel S. Syme Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:54:28 AM Kelly, so you are saying that mutiple wrongs by the powers that be make it okay to place people in positions of public trust who have no remose for their extensive public immorality? If the day has come in our society that we are so short staffed in EMS that we must place people like this in EMS then we as a society have a much greater problem, therefore, we ought to turn off our computers, get down on our knees and repent and beg God for mercy.
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:13:16 PM That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that there are far more important things to get incensed over that make EMS look bad. Nobody caught Melia practicing because the NJ First Aid Council resists any effort requiring greater accountability for EMS in that state. So what is the greater threat to EMS - one Robert Melia, or the organization that allows untold numbers of people like Robert Melia to remain in our midst? In the case of Tracy Rolan, the woman is not a criminal. Do you think we should be passing morality judgments on people who have committed no crimes? If you do, be careful, because that's a very slippery slope. Whenever people say, "There oughta be a law!" first you should consider a scenario where that law is enforced by your worst enemy... against you.
Jeffrey Deutsch Jeffrey Deutsch Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:38:00 PM Kelly Grayson, good point about the law being enforced by your worst enemy. John O'Brien's Rule: Only support a law if you'd be OK with your worst enemies enforcing it. Because one day, they will.
Bob Sullivan Bob Sullivan Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:19:01 AM I agree that tougher educational requirements would solve more of these types of problems than tougher background checks. Still, law enforcement, paid municipal fire departments, and many municipal EMS systems (including mine) require you to explain past errors in judgement in addition to a criminal background check. Most EMS private and volunteer services do not, but put there people in the same high-risk situations. Add this to the long list of topics for peer-reviewed research that we need to figure out.
Michael Jones Michael Jones Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:45:22 AM I was in EMS for many years starting back in the late 70's, The long hours and low pay led to my 1st divorce and then they came out with aids which led me to follow another carrer path. 15 years later I once again became involved in EMS as a volunteer with the local fire department. In following the progression of EMS over the years I am disheartened to see that not much has changed other than treatment protocals and technology. The pay is still low, the benefits suck for most unless you are with a paid larger city fire department. This limits the numbers who choose this profession due to the low pay, you cannot raise a family on minunim wage, so employers lobby to keep the standards low and allow less than stellar candidates to practice becouse those are the only people who will work under these conditions. There are also greatly different standards across different states and even different counties. The system needs more oversight and a total overhaul.
Frank Wilson Frank Wilson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:55:36 AM Kelly, well said.
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:14:26 PM Holy smokes, Frank! Long time, no hear!
Frank Wilson Frank Wilson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:16:57 PM A very long time, How is everything in your part of the world?
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:19:32 PM Saving lives, stamping out disease and asking questions that piss people off. You know, the usual. ;)
Frank Wilson Frank Wilson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:31:18 PM And enjoying every minute of it!!
Skip Kirkwood Skip Kirkwood Friday, September 28, 2012 1:27:09 PM I don't know about pissing people off, but you do stimulate good discussions!
Pascal Hay Pascal Hay Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:24:11 PM All I can say is "Be it but by the grace of God there I go." There has to be a standard. Unfortunately as we have found with some of this “knee jerk” legislation in the wake of horrendous crimes against our children. Sometimes we get unexpected results that cause people who would be contributors to society to become burdens on society. Case in point an 18 year old who was dating a 16 year old and the girl’s family filed statutory rape charges against him. He is now a convicted sex offender and has to register posting his picture in the paper and everyone hates him. He can’t have unsupervised access to his children who are his by his wife the girl he was convicted of statutory rape against. They got married and are living together. He can only get menial jobs because no one will hire a sex offender. Is he a hardened sexual predator? No. Is he treated like one by the law and society? Yes. Louisiana has an EMS Commission in place that is supposed to review all events related to certification of EMS in the state. It is to function similarly as the board of nursing does for the nursing profession in the state. That is how we become a profession, policing ourselves. If we want to improve EMS we need to 1. Police ourselves 2. Improve our standards and not just at a state level but at a national level 3. Standardize the educational requirements and curricula at a national level hopefully using the most advance curriculum out there so we don’t regress. We also need to understand that when it comes to issues of this nature they should all be taken on a case by case basis. There is no cut and dry protocol out there when it comes to this issue.
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:08:43 PM I have my issues with the leniency of the EMS Certification Commission (they let a paramedic student of mine in your neck of the woods go with a slap on the wrist, when I had him nailed to the wall for fraudulent clinical documentation), but what we have now is an order of magnitude better than what we had prior to 1997. We still have some issues in Louisiana EMS, but at least we *know* they're issues. Too many other states remain blissfully ignorant.
Pascal Hay Pascal Hay Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:00:52 AM Anything that is made of man will always have these issues. The key is for all of us to remain vigilant towards this issue and continually strive for improvement. I see the political favoritisms all of the time. In this area it is especially prevalent where a particular public service is involved who thinks they invented EMS and don’t need to play by anyone’s rules but their own. I know it is not perfect but it is better. When I came home from the Navy I was pretty appalled at the state of EMS in Louisiana. It has improved 100 fold and I think we have one of the better in the nation now. It can always be improved. I try to think positive and strive to move forward.
Amanda Arndt Amanda Arndt Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:28:29 PM When I was going through my course to become an EMT I was on probation for a misdemeanor theft conviction of which was later proven I did not commit. However, at the time it was still on my record. Upon completion of the course, I was denied the chance to take my NREMT exam due to this conviction. It was not the NREMT however who denied me, It was the state of Tennessee that saw my background check and denied the ability to test. After references and clearances from the probation officers, I was allowed to test and recieved both my state licensures and my NREMT. I am thankful for the fact that tennessee pays attention to background checks, but I will say that they need to continue background checks to not only obtain the license but to MAINTAIN it as well.
Kevin Reiter Kevin Reiter Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:12:21 PM Just to be clear, New Jersey requires you to answer a number of questions regarding criminal history, and if you answer "yes" to any of them, you get a letter and a phone call from the State to tell you all of the records you need to submit in order to proceed. You aren't allowed to register/sign up for an EMT class until this process has been completed to their satisfaction, or you are denied. The NJSFAC has nothing to do with this process whatsoever. (I'll keep my own opinions of the NJSFAC private, however.) You can see for yourself here: https://njems.rutgers.edu/acr/create_account.jsp
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:01:54 PM Question: If you lie and answer "no," as Melia did, is there any automatic process to check that? In other words, a mandatory CBI? It was my information that the EMS redesign bill that Christie gutted (supposedly at NJSFAC's urging) would have streamlined and standardized certification and entry requirements between vollie and paid EMS, and a CBI was part of that.
Kevin Reiter Kevin Reiter Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:14:38 PM I stand corrected. I called the State today and asked them. They don't automatically do a background check on everyone, only those honest enough to answer "yes" to those questions. The bill is back on the table, so it might be changing soon. Let's hope so, anyway.
Thomas Smith Thomas Smith Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:49:11 PM Kelly, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Although I think "Higher Standars" is part of the dream that lies within the wish for advancement of EMS. My question is what sacrifices are we willing to make and what price will we pay for these higher standards, whether they're more thorough backgroud checks or higher expectations for education? The dream is free; The process is not.
Kelly Grayson Kelly Grayson Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:04:42 PM Oh, it will cost money. But I don't think it's prohibitively expensive. An NCIC check in Louisiana costs somewhat less than $50. The number $15 comes to mind, but don't quote me on that.
Alan W. Rose Alan W. Rose Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:50:32 PM Nail, meet head. Here in VA, sex felons are permanently barred from certification, but others just have to be 5 years past their final confinement/parole/probation date. That may have been amended recently, but it's basically true. However, the state Office of EMS does not do background checks on applicants, rather relying on the "felony statement" that must be signed on every certification application. Neither do they mandate that EMS agencies do checks, although it is offered as optional and "free" (I think the fee comes from a different fund) to process the check through the State Police. Still this check only reveals convictions, not arrests. I have in the past reported a known ineligible EMT/recent felon to the state office for decertification after I learned that he had lied on his application. Sadly, this is the default mechanism that the office relies on to catch wrongfully certified providers. To me it is completely unacceptable. And while we can't ignore a situation like the porn star once the cat is out of the bag, that situation could have certainly been handled better by all involved.
James Kelly James Kelly Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:17:46 PM My volunteer agency had a long time volunteer arrested for having sex with a minor. Given, he was NEARLY of age, but still. Agreed. Look at the whole picture, not the man. (or woman. And this case, both parties were male). I also agree that EMS is shamefully undereducated. But it's a chicken-egg conundrum. Very few people will go the degree route if it means a dollar or two an hour or more. But if we don't enact higher education requirements. , EMS will continue to get folks that just want an "interesting" low end job.
Karie Ann West Karie Ann West Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:39:08 AM We all have skeletons in our closet. None of us have led perfect lives. Standards have to be put into place in our profession because the personnel will have access to patients when they are the most vulnerable or are alone. Sure, we all deserve second chances in life and people of low character will always find their way into any profession. There have been charges filed against EMTs for molesting unconscious female patients, female patients being sedated or examined against their will, EMTs stealing narcotic drugs, etc. Even with standards in place, a criminal can still fly under the radar. Most criminals have learned how to do this and get away with it, evading arrest. Personally, I trust no one, I have seen highly educated medical personnel make mistakes and kill a patient. A patient has to not take their own care lightly. If someone is taking care of you, ask questions about their training and experience. Pay attention to what they are doing and always have a family member present with you.
David Hassell David Hassell Friday, January 25, 2013 2:49:10 PM What I have a problem with in Tracy Rolan's case is that both the squad and the county are trying to keep her from being able to practice for working in a job that they feel is beneath them. How many of us know someone who has put them selves thru school or provided for their families by working in bars, strip clubs, or other jobs that are looked down on. What will the county do if Ms Rolan takes legal action for discrimination? If she meets the requirements the state sets for certification I do not think they are going to enjoy the result of not allowing her practice,

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